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Journal Entry: Tue May 11, 2010, 11:10 AM
Alright, person has apologized (sweetly and profusely), and I believe it was a mistake and misunderstanding at this point. The art in question has been removed, so I'm thinking we can call this one a day, right? Certainly I don't want anyone flaming her (should not have posted her name probably for that reason). She has assured me she wants to be working in her own style, and I believe she's gonna be great, so let's give her that chance. ;) And I don't care if I see a pose that's similar to mine that someone conceived of in their own way (by thinking about the body), stuff like that, come on, not everything is intellectual property, just wanted it not to seem quite so obvious/nghhh as it was to ~FreshFinns etc, ya know?


I appreciate all the well-wishes and support. :) You guys are my rock. And I don't consider you my 'fans', I consider you my FRIENDS. Community is very important to me here, which is the exact reason I do try to be open about my techniques and how I learned.


As for imitation vs copying vs tracing... we can go on about it all day. The point is, if you feel you referenced something, you talk about it or don't post it, but influence... that's a trickier bird. The difference I believe comes in when you are looking at artwork to begin to understand the body, then you draw your piece from your understanding of the body. The problem might be when you draw what you see rather than what you understand? How I feel about it anyway. :) After all: if we're doing it right, we're referencing all the time--referencing life, what we see, everything is based on who we have been our whole lives and what we've seen in the world throughout that time, so we are all referencing from life anyway. :)

So let's get back to sweeter subjects, and also:


I want to know how I can help you all, and how I can connect with you better. :) I haven't ustreamed a live drawing in months, and I definitely need to do some more tutorials (so what would you like to see?). I want to help give others the tools that so many kind artists gave me when I asked about a brush type, a technique, or how they 'saw' something. So please let me know how I can help you become the best artist YOU can be, so you can just put it straight out of your brain onto the paper (and skip the 'referencing' part altogether, heehee). I don't believe in shutting down that openness from this, in fact I want to be more connected now.


I love you guys,

- Ceri





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:iconangelichell:
~AngelicHell May 12, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Good to see things cleared up
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:iconphaiyle:
~Phaiyle May 11, 2010  Professional General Artist
Super glad it got taken care of!

I hate it when things like that happen.... mostly because when I was younger I traced and felt that if I changed enough, or just traced for the pose, that it was okay. That it made it mine... I never went around showing people those works that WERE traced, but I still FELT as if they were mine.. TT.TT *shame*

I'm ashamed that I did it, but to be 100% honest, it did help my anatomy and stuff.
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:iconjennis233:
:shrug: I didn't flame her, I just brought her watchers to attention :>
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:iconcerena:
Yes, this is true. I believe she might have received some notes or something... :)
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:iconsiafoam:
that really sucks cere :(
I hope you have fun at carnegie hall though! <3
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:iconosyris:
USDA Grade A Choice Billshit, that one is. :poo:

There is a grand distinction between imitation and duplication. :|
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:iconluckycookie:
Well, As far as style goes everyone on here is trying to copy Loish. (who is a Goddess in original design and color nowadays)I even see some influence from her artwork in your own Cerena. So we all have copied from someone at one point. Just be glad you have Fans.
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~V-lock May 11, 2010  Professional Artist
Loish who?
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:iconsquidcap:
Uh, no. Not really. There are a shit ton of artists on DA who don't try to copy anyone, and although Loish is a good artist, that doesn't mean everyone on DA wants to be her. Just because Cerena was inspired by Loish's work doesn't mean mean she has COPIED anything, and influences from Loish's style in Cerena's is not copying, it's just what I said. INFLUENCE. We have NOT "all copied from someone at one point". Many artists get where they are today from self-teaching.

Tracing is a COMPLETELY different thing from being inspired by someone. I can look at Cerena's art and say to myself, "I like the way she draws arms, so I will practice drawing arms like hers, and then incorporate what I have learned into my OWN STYLE". OR I can choose to trace Cerena's artwork. THEY ARE NOT COMPARABLE.

Besides that, Cerena's fans have nothing to do with what she was saying. She's saying it's wrong to trace and claim the art as her own. She never said she isn't grateful for her fans, so why should she "just be glad she has Fans"?

Thanks.
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~iilove2PM May 10, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm sorry. I'm really shaky right this instance because I know what I had done is wrong, and i should take full responsibility for it. And i hope no one thinks me as a bad person because in real life I am not. I'm in a good school and gets good grades that is all to who I'm really am. Whould you accept my apology? I took the picture off dA because that was the right thing to do. And I hope you accept my apology. I have my own style and I'll use that from now on.
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